the source of all love,Â
kindness, empathy,
mercy
that, despite itself,
psychopathic DNA
was impelled to instill
in all species
that depend on begetter’s nurturance
to propagate their seed
Stevan Harnad
the source of all love,Â
kindness, empathy,
mercy
that, despite itself,
psychopathic DNA
was impelled to instill
in all species
that depend on begetter’s nurturance
to propagate their seed
An undeniable sense of emptiness in covid confinement
in the distancing and zooming
something is missing, we think
till we realize
that’s pretty much all it’s been all along
and always will be.
—
Vaguely like sex through a condom
On Feb 28, 2020 [deleted] wrote: “
From Galileo I learned that you cannot improve that which you do not measure…”
What had to be âmeasuredâ to âimprove” on slavery, or the subjugation of women? Some wrongs are obvious, if you just look; and what needs âimprovingâ is human behavior, not measurements.
“ignorance and apathy perpetuates the moral relativism typical of modern agricultural systems…”
The ignorance, apathy and moral relativism are those of individual human cerebra, not âsystems,â which feel nothing.
“I think I can do more for animal welfare working from a complex adaptive system approach than by doing what they call ‘research on welfare’…â
Let us cut to the quick on this: Are you a vegan activist?
If not, your disposition toward âmeasuringâ a âcomplex adaptive systemâ — in place of ceasing to harm animals and devoting yourself to inspiring everyone else to do likewise — is just cognitive dissonance (which is itself worthy of measuring and modelling: but it always transpires in individual human cerebra, not in âcomplex adaptive systemsâ — which, again, are not sentient).
(I will come back to âresearch on welfareâ at the end.)
“… the utilitarian conception of life throughout time and… its foundations… for western civilizations… Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, Rousseau, James George Frazer…”
Utilitarianism is counting. Just counting. Machines can count. But machines are not sentient. âWelfareâ is a sanitized, self-deluding word. The right word is suffering.
Utilitarians can say âmeasure and minimize sufferingâ — as if most of it were not obvious. But if utilitarians can theorize (âmeasure and modelâ) while munching on the leg of a lamb, they are simply engaging in a pious exercise in cognitive dissonance.
“If you think this rudimentary idea is a waste of your time, please let me know, as the only thing I want to know is whether I am wrong…
This is not about the rightness or wrongness of a complex theory about a complex system but the rightness or wrongness of actions — which, in the case of what is being done to countless sentient organisms by our âcomplex agricultural systemâ every second of every minute of every day, everywhere in the âanthropocene,â is pre-theoretically and a-theoretically obvious to anyone who looks.
(Which is why I think that what is needed is to look, not just to count. Just counting — âmeasure and minimize sufferingâ — takes the âsystemâ for granted, and tries to âimproveâ it. That is âwelfarism“: “Keep on using and killing animals, but try to hurt them less.â And that, in turn, is again just cognitive dissonance.)
I hope that while you keep measuring, you will keep thinking, and looking. Eventually you will begin feeling; and then you will know what needs to be done.
Est-ce que tu as cessé de battre ton épous(e)?
OU
Est-ce que tu nâas pas cessĂ© de battre ton Ă©pous(e)?
Comment rĂ©pondre Ă une telle question quand on nâa jamais battu personne (et on nâest mĂȘme pas mariĂ©)?
Est-ce que tu es abolitionniste?
OU
Est-ce que tu es welfariste?
Je suis abolitionniste et je suis welfariste.
Lâun nâexclut pas lâautre: C’est une fausse dichotomie.
Un abolitionniste milite pour que tout ce qui est possible soit fait pour abolir tout ce qui cause souffrance Ă dâautres ĂȘtres sensibles (sauf lĂ©gitime dĂ©fense). Je suis abolitionniste.
Un welfariste milite pour que tout ce qui est possible soit fait pour rĂ©duire tout ce qui cause souffrance Ă dâautres ĂȘtres sensibles quand il il nâest pas encore Ă porter de main de lâabolir. Je suis welfariste.
Quâest-ce qui a donnĂ© la fausse impression quâil y a une opposition entre lâabolitionnisme et le welfarisme â quâon ne peut pas ĂȘtre et abolitionniste et welfariste?
CâĂ©tait une hypothĂšse thĂ©orique: lâhypothĂšse que de militer pour rĂ©duire la souffrance quand il nây a pas encore moyen de lâabolir rĂ©duit la chance de lâabolir.
Le seul argument apportĂ© en faveur de cette hypothĂšse est que les industries qui exploitent les ĂȘtres animaux profitent de toute rĂ©duction de leur souffrance pour justifier le fait de ne pas abolir leur exploitation, et pour ainsi lâenraciner encore plus fermement.
Mais les industries qui exploitent les ĂȘtres animaux nâont aucune intention de sâabolir, et font tout pour sâenraciner plus fermement advienne que pourra.
Donc cette une hypothĂšse thĂ©orique qui est apportĂ©e comme preuve que les actions pratiques pour rĂ©duire la souffrance rĂ©elle rĂ©duiront la chance dâabolir la souffrance.
Ce nâest pas une hypothĂšse scientifique, avec des preuves objectives. Câest une prĂ©misse subjective.
Comme tel, ce nâest pas une justification pour abandonner les ĂȘtres aux souffrances qui pourraient ĂȘtre prĂ©venues.
Câest plutĂŽt comme la fausse prĂ©misse cachĂ©e derriĂšre la question:
Est-ce que tu as cessé de battre ton épous(e)?
OU
Est-ce que tu nâas pas cessĂ© de battre ton Ă©pous(e)?
Je dirais que ce nâest pas le fait dâĂȘtre et abolitionniste et welfariste qui est auto-contradictoire mais le fait dâĂȘtre abolitioniste et non welfariste.
“Have you stopped beating your spouse?“
OR
“Have you not stopped beating your spouse?“
How to answer such a question when you have never beaten anyone (and you are not even married)?
Are you an abolitionist?
OR
Are you a welfarist?
I am an abolitionist and I am a welfarist.
One does not exclude the other: This a false dichotomy.
An abolitionist militates to do everything possible to abolish all human-caused suffering to other sentient beings (except self-defense).– I am an abolitionist.
A welfarist militates to do everything possible to reduce all human-caused suffering to other sentient beings when it is not yet within reach to abolish it. — I am a welfarist.
What gave the false impression that there is an opposition between abolitionism and welfarism – that someone cannot be both abolitionist and welfarist?
It was a theoretical hypothesis: the hypothesis that to militate to reduce suffering when there is not yet a way to abolish it reduces the chance of abolishing it.
The only argument made in support of this hypothesis is that the industries which exploit animal beings profit from any reduction in their victims’ suffering to justify not abolishing their exploitation, and thus to entrench it even more firmly.
But the industries that exploit animals have no intention of abolishing themselves; they are doing everything they can to entrench themselves more firmly.
So this is a theoretical hypothesis which is cited as evidence that practical actions to reduce real suffering will reduce the chances of abolishing suffering.
This is not a scientific hypothesis, with objective evidence. Itâs a subjective premise.
As such, it is not a justification for abandoning sentient beings to preventable suffering.
Itâs more like the false premise behind the question:
Have you stopped beating your spouse?
OR
Have you not stopped beating your spouse?
I would say that it is not being both abolitionist and welfarist that is self-contradictory but being abolitionist and not being welfarist.
In the fight against animal suffering, if we really want to help animal beings it is essential to take into account a fundamental distinction between what is done optionally, without vital necessity, and what is done obligatorily, in an inescapable conflict of vital (life or death) interests like the one between an obligate carnivore and its prey.
Tigers cannot survive if they do not capture and eat their prey. It is a biological imperative for their survival and health. Humans are not obligate carnivores. They can survive in full health today without consuming animal beings; it is not a biological imperative for them.
I was present once at a public event for animal rights defenders. A young vegan asked a question timidly: “I am a vegan and an activist defender of animal beings. But I have a chronic condition that requires me to take a drug that contains an animal component. What should I do? “
Most of those present replied, almost unanimously, “Take your medicine. Animal beings as well as human defenders of animal beings need your help. You are not helping them by sacrificing your life. It is a vital necessity for you.”
According to all current scientific knowledge, vaccination saves lives. It is, therefore, a vital necessity. We can hope that one day there will be vaccines that no longer require any animal component. But in the meantime what is urgent is to put an end to the gigantic majority of animal suffering which is unnecessary – hence already completely gratuitous today – before entering the complex and tragic domain of conflicts of vital necessity between sentient beings.
— French version —
Conflits d’intĂ©rĂȘt vital
Dans la lutte contre la souffrance animale, si on veut vraiment aider les ĂȘtres animaux il est essentiel de tenir compte dâune distinction primordiale entre ce qui se fait facultativement, sans nĂ©cessite vitale, et ce qui se fait obligatoirement, dans un conflit de nĂ©cessitĂ©s vitales comme celui entre un carnivore obligatoire et sa proie.
Un tigre ne peut pas survivre sâil ne mange pas sa proie. Sâest un impĂ©ratif biologique pour sa survie et sa santĂ©. Les humains ne sont pas des carnivores obligatoires. Ils peuvent survivre en pleine santĂ© sans consommer les ĂȘtres animaux; ça ne leur est pas un impĂ©ratif biologique.
JâĂ©tais prĂ©sent une fois Ă un Ă©vĂ©nement publique de dĂ©fenseurs des ĂȘtres animaux. Une jeune vĂ©gane a posĂ© une question timidement: « Je suis vĂ©gane et militante dĂ©fenseure des ĂȘtres animaux. Mais jâai une maladie chronique pour laquelle il faut que je prenne un mĂ©dicament qui contient une composante dâorigine animale. Que dois-je faire? »
On lui a rĂ©pondu, presque unanimement: « Prend ton mĂ©dicament. Les ĂȘtres animaux ainsi que les dĂ©fenseurs humains des ĂȘtres animaux ont besoin de ta protection. Tu ne les aides pas en sacrifiant ta vie. Câest une nĂ©cessitĂ© vitale pour toi. »
DâaprĂšs toutes les connaissances scientifiques actuelles, la vaccination sauve les vies. Il sâagit, donc, de la nĂ©cessitĂ© vitale. Il est Ă espĂ©rer quâun jour il y aura les vaccins qui ne nĂ©cessitent plus aucune composante dâorigine animale. Mais entre temps lâurgence est de mettre fin Ă cette gigantesque majoritĂ© des souffrances animales qui sont inutiles â donc dĂ©jĂ complĂštement gratuites aujourdâhui â avant de rentrer dans le domaine complexe et tragique des conflits de nĂ©cessitĂ©s vitales entre les ĂȘtres sensibles.
The clueless, mad-as-hell, red-capped rabble cheering Trumpâs vile, brainless, heartless, shameless, mendacious malignity, come what may, are the Deplorables (just as HC said).
The corporations, lawyers, politicians, oligarchs and other opportunists who prop up Trumpâs vile, brainless, heartless, shameless, mendacious malignity, come what may, are the Despicables.
The racists, jingoists, religionists, conspiratorialists and psychopaths who top up Trumpâs vile, brainless, heartless, shameless, mendacious malignity, come what may, are the Dements
And the remainder of humanity, who reject and oppose vile, brainless, heartless, shameless, mendacious malignity are the Decents.
The Manichaean forces seem to be aligning themselves as this all begins to take the shape of a struggle between Good and Evil. When so much is at stake, shades-of-grey nuances become mere distractions or filibusters.
A sentient being – unlike a chair or table – cannot have an “owner” in the usual sense.
The relationship must be more like that between a legal ward and her legal guardian (or caretaker or parent).
Guardians must be entitled to go to court in the interest of their ward.
If the animal being has no guardian, or if the guardian does not act in her interests, she must become the legal ward of the court, which must act in her interests.
Without this the notion of “well-being” is voided of meaning — and with it the notion of a sentient being with biological imperatives (= interests) that must not be violated.
This is why no one (including the “owner”) can do whatever they like to their dog, unlike to their chair.
Why? Because a dog, as a sentient being, has an interest in her own well-being (in not having her biological imperatives violated: deprived of food, water, shelter, space, freedom of movement, social imperatives, freedom from pain, freedom from fear, freedom from stress). That is what it is to be a sentient being. Chairs have no interest.
It is incoherent to enshrine this interest in law, formally recognizing animal sentience and its biological imperatives, yet not accord that interest legal standing in court.
It was explicitly in order to distinguish a sentient being from an insentient object without any interests that Quebecâs AWSA (BESA) law was adopted.
That is why the sentience law implies, both logically and practically, that the legal status of “owner” likewise needs to be updated to make it conform and cohere with the animal being’s status of sentient being.
That is why the status of guardian or parent is much more appropriate and natural than âownerâ in the case of a sentient being as opposed to an insentient object.
A sentient being has biological imperatives and it thus has (like all sentient beings) a personal interest (even without needing to be declared a legal “person”) in not having its own biological imperatives violated. Being sentient means being capable of feeling pain and suffering if one’s biological imperatives are violated.
The only way to resolve, logically and fairly, the inconsistencies described above (owner, property, insentient object, sentient being, biological imperative, interest, guardian/caretaker/parent) will be to develop a new legal category of agent, other than “ordinary owner,” for those who have the care of a sentient being (human or non-human). If biological imperatives were not personal interests, the distinction between insentient objects and sentient beings would be empty and meaningless.
Un ĂȘtre sensible — contrairement Ă une chaise ou une table — ne peut pas avoir un « propriĂ©taire tout court ».
La relation doit ĂȘtre davantage comme celle entre un pupille puis son tuteur (ou gardien ou parent).
Le gardien doit avoir le droit de saisir le tibunal dans les intĂ©rĂȘts de son pupille,
Et si lâĂȘtre animal nâa pas de gardien, ou si le gardien nâagit pas dans les intĂ©rĂȘts de lâĂȘtre animal, il faut que lâĂȘtre animale devienne le pupille de la cour, qui agira dans ses intĂ©rĂȘts.
Sans ça la notion de « bien ĂȘtre » est vidĂ©e de sens; et avec elle la notion dâun ĂȘtre sensible ayant les impĂ©ratifs biologiques ( = les intĂ©rĂȘts ) qui doivent ĂȘtre respectĂ©s.
Câest pour ça que personne (y compris le « propriĂ©taire »), contrairement quâavec sa chaise, ne peut faire nâimporte quoi avec son chien, .
Pourquoi? Parce que le chien a un intĂ©rĂȘt a son bien-ĂȘtre (le respect de ses impĂ©ratifs biologiques: eau, air, nourriture, logement, espace, libertĂ© de mouvement, impĂ©ratifs sociaux, absence de douleur, absence de peur, absence de stresse). Câest ça dâĂȘtre un ĂȘtre sensible. Les chaises nâont aucun intĂ©rĂȘt.
Il est incohĂ©rent de reconnaitre cet intĂ©rĂȘt formellement dans la loi, en reconnaissant la sensibilitĂ© animale et ses impĂ©ratifs biologiques, mais pas devant le tribunal, faute de « l’intĂ©rĂȘt juridique » dâagir.
Câest prĂ©cisĂ©ment et explicitement pour distinguer un ĂȘtre sensible dâun objet sans intĂ©rĂȘts que la loi BESA a Ă©tĂ© adoptĂ©e.Â
Câest pour ça que lâadoption de la nouvelle loi implique logiquement et pratiquement quâil faut maintenant mettre Ă jour le statut juridique de « propriĂ©taire» pour le rendre conforme et cohĂ©rent avec le statut dâĂȘtre sensible.
Câest pour ça que le statut de tuteur/gardien/parent est beaucoup plus appropriĂ© et naturel quand il sâagit dâun ĂȘtre sensible et non pas d’un objet insensible.
Un ĂȘtre (un organisme) sensible possĂšde des impĂ©ratifs biologiques et il possĂšde ainsi un intĂ©rĂȘt personnel (mĂȘme sans devoir ĂȘtre dĂ©clarĂ© une « personne » juridique) Ă ce que ses impĂ©ratifs soient respectĂ©s.
La seule façon de rĂ©soudre logiquement et Ă©quitablement les incohĂ©rences dĂ©crites ci-dessus (propriĂ©taire, propriĂ©tĂ©, objet insensible, ĂȘtre sensible, impĂ©ratif biologique, intĂ©rĂȘt, gardien/tuteur/parent) sera de developper une nouvelle catĂ©gorie juridique dâagent, autre que « propriĂ©taire » ordinaire, pour ceux qui ont la garde dâun ĂȘtre sensible (humain ou non humain). Parce que si les impĂ©ratifs biologiques ne sont pas des intĂ©rĂȘts personnels, la distinction entre les objets et les ĂȘtres sensibles est complĂštement dĂ©naturĂ©e et dĂ©pourvue de sens.