{"id":1755,"date":"2022-07-04T14:21:15","date_gmt":"2022-07-04T13:21:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/generic.wordpress.soton.ac.uk\/skywritings\/?p=1755"},"modified":"2022-07-04T14:24:15","modified_gmt":"2022-07-04T13:24:15","slug":"chomsky-on-consciousness","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/generic.wordpress.soton.ac.uk\/skywritings\/2022\/07\/04\/chomsky-on-consciousness\/","title":{"rendered":"Chomsky on Consciousness"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Re:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=vLuONgFbsjw\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=vLuONgFbsjw<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I only watched the beginning, but I think I got the message. Let me precede this with: yes, I have come to understand the problem of \u201cconsciousness\u201d through the lens of practical ethics. But suspend judgement: it\u2019s not just a matter of overgeneralizing one\u2019s culinary druthers\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Prelude.&nbsp;<\/strong>First, an important aside about Tom Nagel\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jstor.org\/stable\/pdf\/2183914.pdf?casa_token=E2IkT9WmHUQAAAAA:9DPUsX202IcfzDJx8BI-xySmLfLKw2GchMY7qmffH0dKtYjsZwrBqhVSSwzMH0koCKkyiN3ozpUmkncxnQ8tyiAzzo8LMBAY0e3aShGiexIWv2VvPA\">influential article<\/a>. As often happens in philosophy, words throw you. Tom should never have entitled (or, for pedants, \u201ctitled\u201d) it \u2018What&nbsp;<strong>is it like to be<\/strong>&nbsp;a bat?\u201d but \u201cWhat&nbsp;<strong>does it feel like to be<\/strong>&nbsp;a bat?\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We\u2019d have been spared so&nbsp;&nbsp;much silliness (still ongoing). It would have brought to the fore that the problem of consciousness is not the metaphysical problem of explaining \u201cWhat kind of \u2018stuff\u2019 is consciousness?\u201d but the&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong>hard problem<\/strong>&nbsp;of explaining (causally) \u201c<em>How and why do organisms feel?<\/em>\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The capacity to feel is a biological trait, like the capacity to fly. But flying is observable, feeling is not.&nbsp;<em>Yet that\u2019s not the \u201chard problem.\u201d<\/em>&nbsp;That\u2019s \u201cjust\u201d the \u201cother minds problem.\u201d Just a puzzle among fellow gentleman-philosophers, about certainty &#8212; but an existential agony for those sentient species that we assume do not feel, and treat accordingly,&nbsp;<em>when in fact they do feel<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Easy Sequel.&nbsp;<\/strong>Noam is mistaken to liken the hard problem to the Newtonian problem of explaining the laws of motion. Motion (of which flying is an example) is observable; feeling is not. But, again,&nbsp;<em>that is not the hard problem<\/em>.&nbsp;<em>Quarks<\/em>&nbsp;are not observable; but without inferring that little (observable) protons are really composed of big (unobservable) quarks, we cannot explain protons. So quarks cannot be seen, but they can be inferred from what can be seen, and they play an essential causal (or functional) role in the (current) explanation of protons.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Feeling cannot be observed (by anyone other than the feeler \u2013 this is the \u201c1st person perspective\u201d that Nagel extolled and interviewer Richard Brown obnoxiously tries to foist on Chomsky).&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But even though feeling cannot be observed, it can be inferred. We know people feel; we know our dog feels. Uncertainty only becomes nontrivial when we get down to the simplest invertebrates, microbes and plants. (And, before anyone mentions it, we also know that rocks, rockets and [today\u2019s] robots (or LaMDAas)&nbsp;&nbsp;<em>don\u2019t<\/em> feel. Let\u2019s not get into scholastic and sterile scepticism about what we can know \u201cfor sure.\u201d)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So the \u201chard problem\u201d of explaining, causally (functionally), how and why sentient organisms feel is hard precisely because of the \u201ceasy problem\u201d of causally explaining observable capacities of organisms, like moving, flying, learning, remembering, reasoning, speaking.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It looks for all the world as if [once we have explained (causally) how and why organisms can&nbsp;<strong>do<\/strong>&nbsp;all the (observable) things they can do], then&nbsp;<em>feeling<\/em>&nbsp;&#8212; unlike the quarks in&nbsp;&nbsp;the (subatomic) explanation of what protons can (observably) do, or the Newtonian explanation of what billiard balls can (observably) do &#8212;&nbsp;<em>feeling<\/em>&nbsp;looks for all the world as if it is&nbsp;<strong>causally superfluous<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Solving the \u201chard problem\u201d would be simple: Just explain, causally, how it would be impossible for organisms to do all (or some) of the things they can do if they did not feel. In other words, explain the&nbsp;<strong>causal role of feeling<\/strong>&nbsp;(adaptively, if you like \u2013 after all, it\u2019s an evolved, biological trait).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But before you go there, don\u2019t try to help yourself to feeling as a fundamental force of nature, the way Newton helped himself to universal gravitation. Until further notice, feeling is just a tiny local product of the evolution of life in one small planet\u2019s biosphere. And there\u2019s no reason at all to doubt that, like any other biological trait, feeling is explainable in terms of the four fundamental forces (gravity, electromagnetism, \u201cstrong\u201d subatomic &amp; \u201cweak\u201d subatomic). No 5th psychokinetic force.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The problem is just coming up with the causal explanation. (Galen Strawson\u2019s \u201cpanpsychism\u201d is an absurd, empty \u2013 and I think incoherent \u2013 metaphysical fantasy that does not solve the \u201chard problem,\u201d but just inflates it to cosmic proportions without explaining a thing.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So Noam is mistaken that the hard problem is not a problem. But it\u2019s not about explaining what it feels like to see a sunset. It is about explaining how and why (sentient) organisms feel anything at all.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>See: &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/archipel.uqam.ca\/6522\/1\/MindsBrainsTuring.pdf\"><strong>Minds, Brains and Turing<\/strong><\/a>&#8221; (2011) as well as the (<a href=\"https:\/\/consciousnessonline.wordpress.com\/program-2011\/\">Browned out<\/a>) <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/web-archive.southampton.ac.uk\/cogprints.org\/7334\/4\/CComFIN.html\">discussion<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/generic.wordpress.soton.ac.uk\/skywritings\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/287\/2022\/07\/Embryo.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1756\" width=\"217\" height=\"163\" \/><figcaption><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Beginning_of_human_personhood\">First Personhood<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Re:&nbsp;https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=vLuONgFbsjw I only watched the beginning, but I think I got the message. Let me precede this with: yes, I have come to understand the problem of \u201cconsciousness\u201d through the lens of practical ethics. But suspend judgement: it\u2019s not just a matter of overgeneralizing one\u2019s culinary druthers\u2026 Prelude.&nbsp;First, an important aside about Tom Nagel\u2019s influential &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/generic.wordpress.soton.ac.uk\/skywritings\/2022\/07\/04\/chomsky-on-consciousness\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Chomsky on Consciousness&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3074,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[143,142,17,144],"class_list":["post-1755","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-hard-problem-consciousness","tag-hard-problem","tag-chomsky","tag-consciousness","tag-panpsychism"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/generic.wordpress.soton.ac.uk\/skywritings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1755","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/generic.wordpress.soton.ac.uk\/skywritings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/generic.wordpress.soton.ac.uk\/skywritings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/generic.wordpress.soton.ac.uk\/skywritings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3074"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/generic.wordpress.soton.ac.uk\/skywritings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1755"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/generic.wordpress.soton.ac.uk\/skywritings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1755\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1759,"href":"https:\/\/generic.wordpress.soton.ac.uk\/skywritings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1755\/revisions\/1759"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/generic.wordpress.soton.ac.uk\/skywritings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1755"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/generic.wordpress.soton.ac.uk\/skywritings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1755"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/generic.wordpress.soton.ac.uk\/skywritings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1755"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}